Mark Gagnon

Just to see what being a socialist is like, just trying it out.

You have nothing and you're learning a lot.

Why not?

So while he's at Stanford, Peter Thiel, he's living, when he's in South Africa specifically, he's living in this German enclave.

And it's kind of like a lot of post, you know, Third Reich exiles that are kind of like, they moved out of Germany because there's a lot of stuff going on out there.

And get away from all the mess, you know?

Let's just go to someplace quiet.

Sure they have some accepting views on race.

Exactly.

And they're kind of living down there for a while.

And then he goes to Stanford at the peak of liberalism.

And he basically is reading all the stuff where all the stuff they were talking about at Stanford at the time is stuff people are talking about now, which is like...

Oh, everyone's so afraid of like saying the wrong thing and offending people that no one's saying anything at all.

College is supposed to be a place of challenging ideas, which is literally what we're talking about in 2026.

Right.

So he was like pre-anti-woke.

Yes, exactly.

He was anti-woke before it was even cool.

And he goes so far as even start like a libertarian campus paper called the Stanford Review.

And he's just like-