Mark Halperin

We'll talk to them about my new obsession, which is what are we doing as a country, a society, a people about AI and the threats and opportunities that are there.

And then Alex Roy will be here.

He's an extraordinary guy with an extraordinary career who understands two things, again, that I'm super focused on.

One is electric vehicles and the other is self-driving cars.

There's an overlap there.

Alex understands it all.

And these are

These are two huge topics that just don't get enough conversation, enough discussion.

They have to do with our future, our economy, our competitiveness in the world, including with China.

So we'll talk all about that.

But before we get to our guests in just a moment, my reported monologue on just the way Donald Trump inspires so many and depresses so many, who has been a divisive figure for his entire political career.

And I've been thinking a lot this week about

on this day of the State of the Union, where we stand in the face of Donald Trump as the president of the United States, beloved by some and, to say the least, not beloved by others.

I'm going to walk you through how I'm thinking about that on this critical week when there's so much going on at home and abroad.

All of that coming up, all of that next up after this break.

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