Mark Halperin

So if you were if you were White House chief of staff to President Bartlett or whoever, what would what would you think the proper role of a president is to lead us through the elites and the people at large in America to lead us through this?

Beverly?

All right, I love the way you both framed it and you lead to this gap between like this paper that got written that caused the market to go down.

Like, we're the people.

We need to take control of this.

We can't just be repeaters of doomsday scenarios.

And if the people are worried about the combination of the scale of change this is going to bring, not just in terms of jobs lost, although that's huge, but the scale it's going to bring to all corners of our society, along with, as you, Beverly, said, doomsday scenarios coming from some of the smartest people around.

If government is not going to deal with that in a decisive way, and it's going to be a challenge to do, we can't expect the private sector to do it.

So are we all just sitting around, I don't want to say powerless, but passively not meeting the moment to explain this to people and to make sure that this channel is in a positive direction?

Hi, Emma.

Beverly, is there anybody in public life you hear talking about this that gives you comfort that they've sort of got to handle on how to deal with it?

Right.

Okay.

Again, you both are framing it so well and so thoughtfully.

Here's another concern I have.

I'm not against money in politics.

I'm a big First Amendment person.

And I think if you try to outlaw money in politics, the money just finds some other way in.

That's just my general view.

I don't think that point of view favors one party over the other.