Mark Hertling

The plan should include what happens if the regime topples.

Then what do you do to support the people as opposed to just having chaos because they no longer have a government?

One of the things I said in that article I wrote about Iran, and it's the same thing that you say about Venezuela or any place else we go.

The question shouldn't be, what should we hit?

The question should be, what end state are we trying to achieve?

What kind of government are we wanting to see?

How are the people going to be treated?

And what actions might we take that could make everything worse?

And I'm suggesting that a massive bombing campaign without the other elements of national power coming to play would make things worse in Iran.

You're asking the questions that should have been asked beforehand.

The first question, who's in charge of Venezuela right now?

You know, the president said he was.

Then he pointed to four of his cabinet members and said they are.

But it appears that the former vice president of Venezuela is in charge and the same corruption is occurring.

The oil companies don't want to go in.

I think that was a major surprise to the president when most of them said, it's not a smart move.

We can't make any money out of this.

We've already had people there.

We know what the situation is like, which, by the way, also happened in Iraq when I was there in 2007, because we had the major oil facilities of Iraq.

And our area of operation is the Beji oil refinery and the Kurdish oil fields.