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Mark Hertling

πŸ‘€ Speaker
524 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

These guys are not generating pride.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

They are being sent on the street to create havoc and to violate rights.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

So it just infuriated me.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And that's even starting to get hot talking about it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

That's why I wrote the piece.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And by the way, that idea for the billboard campaign was generated by the Iraqi minister of the interior, the guy who was in charge of police forces, kind of the equivalent of the Homeland Security secretary.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And it just was fascinating to us that they had come such a long way.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

I was first there in 2003 and 2004, and the next time was 2007 and eight.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And what we saw was a taking a pride.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And even if you see pictures of me in the second tour, I'm wearing the American flag on one shoulder and the Iraqi flag on the other because I wanted to be associated with their security forces.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And they were constantly out with our troops doing combined operations with both our military police and also our infantry and armor and artillery guys as well.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

So it just showed a change of attitude.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And one of the things I didn't put in the article, you know, you go to any American city and on the side of police cars, there is the equivalent of something like to protect and to serve or, you know, any kind of motto like that in a local police.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

That's not what these guys are doing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

That's not what these ICE people are doing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

They're intimidating and being thugs.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

It's...

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

anathema to what we believe in in terms of security forces.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

The thing that bothers me, though, Tim, is they don't seem to care what their favorability rating is.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And this is what's troubling, because I think we are at an inflection point after last week's killing where it could go one way or another.