Mark Kelly

People can raise a family on.

But also jobs that produce advancements in technology.

And NASA doesn't just create stuff.

You know, it creates industries.

So that's why we need to do this.

Ultimately, I don't think we have a choice.

And I think America needs to continue to lead in this kind of endeavor.

Well, I think you got to figure it out.

There's there's some, we got a lot of stuff we got to do before we're able to get there and put people down to the surface.

We've got to build these landers and test them in low earth orbit.

One of the other challenges is that when we designed Artemis as a mission, you know, missions to the moon, multiple ones, we decided that we want to make this system like kind of reusable.

And to do that, it's not like Apollo and Apollo, the lander,

and the service module and the capsule all went in one unit on a Saturn V rocket, the biggest rocket ever built at the time.

This is separating the crew, putting the crew on a human-rated SLS to get the crew to the Moon in an Orion capsule, join up with the lander, and then get this system

you know, back.

And to get that lander there is on a Starship or New Glenn rocket by SpaceX and Blue Origin, you have to refuel it multiple times in low Earth orbit to get enough propellant on board to get that big of a mass there.

that's a challenge.

We haven't done in-flight refueling.

And I am really concerned about whether, I know we can eventually do it, but what's the timeline going to be?

What's going to be the cost?