Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Space. The second to last frontier. The second to last? The final?
Chapter 2: How has the space program evolved since the shuttle era?
Disney World. I haven't been. I haven't been either. I've lived here for six years. I want to go to Alaska. It's the third to last frontier. Hold on. Is it the third?
Chapter 3: What role do private companies play in the current space race?
Like, it's a cool frontier. You sound terrible. Doug sounds insane. We're falling apart after China. We're back in America. I know. China does everything better. Their illnesses...
fucking chalked man we are still in rough shape all three of us i think i got beat up on the basketball court it's all it's all jet lag like revitalized my cold i think was almost over it and then returned home to america pork that's why we have to go to space when actually that's why space space final frontier ish second or third to last yeah between disney world
which you guys need to have gone to. You live right next to it.
Chapter 4: Why is the Artemis program significant for lunar exploration?
Live next to Alaska? Yeah, either way. You live close enough to Idaho. I think if you do the math, the moon is as far from Los Angeles as Alaska. Have you seen that, Jack, where he said the moon must be closer than Atlanta because he can see the moon, but he can't see it. That's a good point. That's a great point.
The Shaq clip where he's talking about if you fill up your gas tank when it's three quarters full, you're only paying like half as much or something. He's trying to explain that if you always fill up, you pay less overall. You pay less gas, yeah. Okay, well, there's one big pressing story right now, and it's that Trump made a very threatening announcement on social media.
Yeah, pull this up, Perry. Look, I mean, we're going to talk about the Artemis 2 mission and what's going on with space. And I actually have a lot of questions for you because I don't know too much about it because I am a simpleton on Earth. Unlike me, who's done a day of... I want to learn more about it. But this tweet did just come out.
Chapter 5: What insights does Senator Mark Kelly provide about the Artemis missions?
This truth, I'm sorry. And it's fucking deranged. A whole civilization will die tonight and never be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. We will find out tonight one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. God bless the people of Iran, which is a great thing to say.
I thought this one was the those fucking better open the open the fucking straight. You crazy bastards. We've been living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. Do you think he's watching like Rambo? I mean, he's getting beyond. He's been like a spree. It's like sitting down with his mates to watch all of them in a row. And in between each movie, he does a new tweet.
So I think it's, you know, it's fair to call the language and the threats here as absolutely insane. And the reason we aren't talking about this is like the main section of the episode right now is we're recording this a few hours before the supposed deadline of when Trump is threatening action at the moment. And so by the time you're listening to this, something will have potentially happened.
And we'd be guessing a lot in the discussion. We're going to talk a little bit about Iran, about the Iran war later in this episode. But we have an interview lined up with Senator Mark Kelly, former astronaut, and want to talk about the Artemis program and some of the things that have been going on with that. And then we'll do some Iran discussion at the end of this episode.
that by the time you listen to this, depending on what happens... Yeah, we'll almost certainly be out of date. We'll either have it back down, which I'm praying for. God hopes so. Based on what he's done, likely the outcome is that he'll back down. But if he doesn't, then he's crossed a truly insane line. And then whatever we say will be completely out of date. So we're keeping updated on it.
We'll talk about it more next week. But it's our first... We're gonna look like real goofs if we post this video tomorrow, right? As World War III has started. Yeah, we're talking about... God. Yeah, yeah. I mean, theoretically... It's officially started and we're just... It's like the space... Space episode. And it's like we're in World War III.
That is a real outcome, but we can't do the World War III episode before it happens, so... But I do want to talk about Artemis. So for the people that don't know, the current ongoing mission. Perry, bring this up while you're talking. If you go to nasa.gov slash track Artemis, you can see right now where the Orion capsule currently is in their mission around the moon.
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Chapter 6: How does the Artemis program compare to past space missions?
Go ahead, Aiden. It's cool. It's an interactive thing they made in Unity. Yeah, so this is the first mission ever where we've sent humans around the dark side of the moon. Oh, shit. Or anything around? Not anything. Technically, one of the Apollo missions, we did go around the moon.
They literally, like, the oxygen tanks or helium tanks were breaking, so they had to slingshot around the back of the moon. Okay. That's badass. But this is the first planned one. Okay, the first intended mission around the dark side of the moon.
And one of the crazy things about this, other than, I don't think we've sent humans even around the moon in a really, in decades, is the length of time that they went fully without communications to Earth, like as soon as they go around that other side of the moon, they're completely in the dark, and we don't know until they come back around whether or not they're okay, able to communicate with them again.
And you have been looking into this the most in preparation for this interview. Anything else that really stands out? Okay, I want to give a brief outline of the NASA history and what led up to this.
And I'm actually going to make an argument that I hope Senator Mark Kelly, who's like a badass astronaut, by the way, that we're going to get to talk to, hopefully doesn't watch this part of the episode. I don't think this mission's that hype. It's the upcoming ones that are really hype. Oh, there's more? Yeah. Yeah, so it's the first stage of a big program that's being rolled out.
There's an Artemis Expanded Universe. Yeah, yeah, the ACU. The ACU, okay. And I'll tell you how it lines up with Marvel Civil War later. You're always excited for that part. I'm excited for that. The crazy thing is there's like a new, it's the equivalent of the DC Universe. China's been now kicking off their own. Okay, I see. Actually, it's getting kind of crazy.
I think there's a lot of really exciting stories about this beyond this mission, weirdly enough, even though this mission is pretty hype.
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Chapter 7: What are the challenges facing the Artemis program and lunar landing?
Okay, some key timelines in America's space exploration. 1961, our boy JFK says, we're going to go to the moon. We're going to beat the Russians there, right? So by 1967, we start running the Apollo missions, and they run through 1972. It's like five years. And I think the framing for this at the time is in the greater space race, the USSR is kind of crushing the US.
Like they're beating us to every first space milestone of like first person in space. There's a short list of like first space accomplishments. And then we kind of shift the goalposts and say, we will get to the moon first. And that will be kind of the American point of success in this grander space race. They had Sputnik, the first satellite. First satellite, first human.
And then people were freaking out. And then JFK said, no, we got this. He said, we'll go to the moon in this decade and do the other thing. And I never knew what the other thing was. Does anyone know what that is? That's an iconic line. But he just said, we'll go to the moon and we'll do the other thing. The other thing was wonderful. What was the other thing? Does Trump is filling JFK's legacy?
They didn't want us to know.
Chapter 8: How does the current geopolitical landscape affect space exploration?
I see. That was a secret at the time. That's why the Trump ran CIA killed him. So what's crazy? A young Trump. Dude, I feel like most people, and by that I mean literally me until yesterday, just kind of thought we landed on the moon once. We did it six times. We faked it six times. Which is- That's a dedication to faking it. Why would you risk it? There is talk about the other five times.
No, literally. It's like we talk, you hear faking the moon landing so much it's a conspiracy. I think it literally warped my brain into thinking we went one time. We went six fucking times. People walked on the moon six times, including like a geologist for the last one. Was he? build an expensive soundstage in LA. You have to use it more than once.
Otherwise, you're not getting your money's worth. We owned it. We weren't renting it. So we got to keep using this. Otherwise, you're breaking the lease. Okay, so this is the Apollo era. Badass. In fact, Apollo is actually the brother of Artemis, which is why this most recent one is named Artemis, the program. So it's like the revival of it.
All right, so Apollo, this is like the big, awesome one that we did super well. And this is like a five-year period, and there's a whole bunch of missions. There's 17. Ends with Apollo 17. Um, and so then we're kind of silent for a while and we shift to the space shuttle era.
So, you know, if you've seen the, uh, eight ish, pull up a picture of a space shuttle or whatever you think looks coolest, coolest one. Yeah. The coolest looking one space shuttle is the one where it looks like, you know, uh, I guess an airplane or something on the side of a rocket. And the whole idea is we're going to make it more reusable. So it's cheaper. head of their time.
So that's like a 30 year period. It's 1981 until 2011. So like when we were kids, the space shuttle program was still running. Not only that, Senator Mark Kelly did one of the last ones. He was commander on one of the last space shuttle missions. And I want to ask him about this maybe, unless he'll like be upset and he'll say, no one talks to me about that. And he'll end the call.
He was scheduled to do the final one. He was scheduled to be the commander of the final space shuttle mission. And then Congress was like, nah, let's do one more. Like at the very end. So he doesn't get to have the honor. So like in the Wikipedia, it's like he was the last, I forget. So he still did it. They just did one after? They did one after, yeah.
So this is like, you know, one of the big success eras of the space shuttle. And so at this point, what's critical to recognize here is this all becomes about low earth orbit. We're not going into deep space anymore. We're not going to the moon. So like once Apollo ends in 1972, we are not going to the moon ever again. That's the last time someone walked on the moon? Yeah.
Not only last time someone walked on the moon, it's last time we've sent people near the moon or anything like this. So the space shuttle era, that 30 year period was just low earth orbit and is basically about setting up the international space station. We did other things, got like the Hubble, you know, Hubble telescope and, There's all these other things. There's like 135 missions here.
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