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Mark Lister

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On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

G'day team, hope you're all well.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

Today I wanted to talk about stagflation because that has been back in the headlines over the last few weeks as we've got this oil price shock that threatens to push inflation back up and at the same time it could take a big chunk out of economic activity.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

Now stagflation is a term that they use to describe a particular set of economic conditions.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

Low growth or

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

high unemployment, but also high inflation.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

It is a highly undesirable combination.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

We've seen our Reserve Bank here in New Zealand suggest that our inflation rate could hit 4.2% in the June quarter.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

That's more than double the 2% midpoint of its target range.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

while the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, recently released a scenario that sees global inflation at 5.4%, and an even worse scenario that sees it above 6%.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

So those are just potential outcomes.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

They're not predictions from the IMF, but they would go hand-in-hand with a fairly bleak economic outlook.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

now when we think about stagflation the most well-known period where we saw that was the 1970s and that was a decade that was terrible for investment returns u.s shares corporate bonds and real estate all posted respectable but below average annual gains of between five and seven percent over those ten years so five to seven percent per annum over that decade through the 1970s

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

None of those kept pace with rampant inflation.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

Inflation averaged 7.4% over that whole decade.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

So in real terms, inflation-adjusted terms, investors actually went backwards and made no money.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

In fact, they lost money.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

They lost purchasing power.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

It was even worse here in New Zealand.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

Our inflation in the 1970s averaged 12% per annum.

On Point
ep 359 | Could 1970s-style stagflation happen again today?

12% for the whole decade if you go point to point from the end of 69 to the end of 79.

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