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Mark Mazzetti

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241 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

Are they trying to parse them out over time?

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

Or were their capabilities hit so hard in the first wave of attacks that they're having trouble responding?

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

So that's another question that will only be answered in the days to come.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

And I would add that as the experience in Iraq showed, even if you have the boots on the ground, you don't necessarily have all the control about what happens either.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

If regime change is not happening or not happening easily without U.S.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

boots on the ground, do you think that there's any circumstance under which we would actually put troops on the ground if the goal is regime change?

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

Like, do we think, for instance, that the U.S.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

is considering putting together some kind of coalition of allied troops like we did after 9-11?

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

It is very, very hard to envision the Trump administration...

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

authorizing large-scale American military presence in Iran with an indefinite future.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

It is against what Trump has said he believes in, which is quick use of American military power that sends a message and then you move on.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

And that was why the Venezuela operation was the sort of platonic ideal of a Trump military operation.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

And anything involving long, costly, messy operations

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

regime change, boots on the ground operations with indefinite outcomes is not really what President Trump's all about.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

OK, but that's kind of my question, though.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

Like, let's say that through some kind of combination of a campaign of attacks by the U.S., Israel, plus whatever kind of uprising we might see from Iranians, let's say the regime falls.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

What do we think would happen next?

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

I assume that you do not think that there would be some kind of peaceful transfer of power to a democratic form of government.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

That also sounds like the recipe for the kind of power vacuum that leads to chaos after U.S.

The Daily
The Killing of Iran’s Supreme Leader and the End of an Era in the Middle East

intervention.