Mark Mazzetti

They should rise up and overthrow the government.

David, how likely do we think that actually is?

And is that a strategy that could even work for a regime that has proven itself over and over again to be extremely resilient?

But it sounds like what you're saying is that the regime is not going to fall easily.

Right.

So do we think that it has the capacity to fight back?

Like the reporting that The Times has been doing and what we've talked about on the show is that the Iranian regime is extremely weak in this moment.

Its military is extremely weak.

So, Mark, what are Iran's actual capabilities to fight this war right now?

So first and foremost, it's a question of can it survive internally?

Recall that this is a security service that has been able to brutally put down internal protests just in recent weeks.

So they are quite capable of getting...

keeping order in the country.

Of course, there's this external pressure, right, from the U.S.

and from Israel that presumably will continue these attacks for days.

And that's then the question of, can the regime survive this external pressure?

What do we know about their capabilities?

We know that the regime has 2,000 or so ballistic missiles, and they only used a small part of the arsenal

Responding to the attacks on Saturday.

Are they waiting?