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Mark Moyar

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

But as I said, I do think actually a pretty strong case to be made of why this war was important.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

But unfortunately, Lyndon Johnson doesn't really make that case.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Yes.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

The black population is interesting because in the early years of the war, it's not a big issue for the most part.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

You do have Martin Luther King coming out.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

But, you know, the the American forces in Vietnam are seen as sort of a model of racial integration because you don't have much in the terms of racial friction from 65 to 68.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Now, after 68, you increasingly see the influence of the black power movement.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And that causes.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

a lot of problems in Vietnam, as well as in the US.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And increasingly, you have this notion that this is a white man's war.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And you also have some prominent media actresses, Jane Fonda being the most well-known example, who come out basically in support of the enemy.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And so that is also very distressing for American troops.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

A lot of them still will never forgive

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Jane Fonda, I mean, she goes to North Vietnam and poses with the North Vietnamese anti-aircraft weapons.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Basically looks like she's helping the guys we're trying to shoot at our pilots.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

So you really have a sense of betrayal that you don't see really in earlier conflicts.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Well, there will be allegations made like that in around 1967.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And at that point, I mean, it's interesting, too, because

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Previously, until the Korean War, blacks were generally kept out of the combat units.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And so at least the combat units that were doing in the most difficult parts of the fighting.