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Mark Moyar

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

He also... So Nixon, for a while, he's been trying to sort of cement his legacy as a great diplomat.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And so...

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

If you look at other diplomatic endeavors, it's actually not all that similar.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Some people get so obsessed with the deal that they just start giving things away just so they can say they struck the deal.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And so what ultimately happens is.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

So the South Vietnamese complain.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Then Kissinger goes back to the North Vietnamese and says, well, we kind of need to change what we agreed to because maybe that wasn't such a great idea.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And the North Vietnamese say, well, we're not, you already agreed to this other stuff.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

So then Nixon bombs them in what's called the Christmas bombing, very heavy bombing in December of 72.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And Nixon easily thinks, yeah, we're going to,

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

you know, clobber North Vietnam.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

They're going to be hurt for so long and, you know, they won't be able to do anything, at least not for a while.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And we're going to, you know, declare this peace agreement.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And he promises the South Vietnamese that he will protect them if if the North Vietnamese, in fact, do launch another big offensive.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Now, whether he was

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

going to actually live up to that?

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

We don't know because he's gone by 74.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

The South Vietnamese, you know, basically the peace never really happens.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

The South Vietnamese are fighting North Vietnamese and it's going pretty well until about the middle of 74 when the American, the aid cuts by the Congress are taking effect.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

So now