Mark Ogden

And that's the sacrifice that UEFA have made here is to, oh, we actually, people really want to see these teams play more often.

And the casual fan probably does.

When it matters.

They probably do, because the rating, I'm sure the ratings will be better for, you know, Arsenal against Paris Saint-Germain in the group stage than it would be for, you know, sporting against Atalanta or whatever.

You know, it stands to reason.

But the reason why those games matter and are so iconic is because they don't come along every three times a season.

No, and Europe would hate it.

The other European leagues would hate it.

The Premier League obviously attracts a lot of animosity for its dominance, financial dominance anyway.

It's sort of a minor miracle really that the big European clubs have still been able to kind of put the Premier League in their place in terms of winning Champions League titles.

you know, that it's not become just a complete monopoly, which, which it has threatened to over sort of various cycles in the last sort of 20 years.

Whereas, and they benefit from the winter break and, and there's just, there's just less football in their legs.

And, and, you know, and that's why,

the sort of exposure and the glorification of the Premier League the intensity of it everything that we love about it comes to almost home to roost in those final few weeks So who's going to win the Champions League?

Well, I was going to say Bayern, but because you've said Bayern, I'll say Barcelona because I said them last season.

And again, a similar kind of argument of just the individual threat plus Marcus Rashford.

I think they're seven from seven.

You can't fault them this season.

They've been fantastic.

And that kind of controlled, minimised mistakes, it does maybe play a bit better in Europe.