Mark Ogden

They weren't able, they don't have that data, but...

I can't think of a time he's done that before and generally it's pretty rare isn't it for a manager to make a quadruple change especially in a game of that magnitude and quite so early on in the second half it was before the hour mark and I just thought it was the first time I think I can remember in a number of years looking at Arteta and thinking that he's that things are happening beyond his control he's a control freak and I mean that in a positive sense

What he's done, the structure and the discipline that he's instilled is remarkable.

It's an incredible transformation.

But that final little tweak is to just let this incredibly talented and vibrant squad go and play.

And they're still a bit too risk-averse.

And...

You know, at 0-0 and at 1-0, he's a picture of agitation.

He's gesturing furiously.

He's pointing to everyone where to go.

He's G-ing them all up.

What was he doing when they were 2-1 down in the second half after he made that change?

Arms folded, watching.

And it was as if...

It's the first time I've seen him that passive in that kind of game situation.

No, and it looked... I mean, Saka was playing on the left at the end.

I can't think of the last time he certainly started a game out there.

It was a long, long time ago.

And by throwing those four on as he did, but not really giving them... They sort of went for it, but they didn't really go for it.

It was kind of a... Yes, it's a big visual moment.