Mark Rober

Yeah, I think something that's helped me a lot in life is valuable frameworks, especially when looking at challenges and when looking at failure.

Viewing failure in a way that it doesn't mean you are a failure, but it almost flips it where it's exciting.

And that approach to problems and challenges...

seeing them as like exciting opportunities really is a framework thing that I've found has just been an incredible help in my life.

My favorite feeling truly is when that aha moment, when you like learn something new and you have a new framework and it allows you to kind of see the world that we've all read a book or listen to a podcast that sticks with you and then changes, heck, the book, let them, right?

Is this for so many people?

And I love that moment so much.

The only thing I love more is giving that to someone else.

I love to be that conduit.

Yeah, so, you know, I'm a mechanical engineer.

I got my bachelor's and master's in mechanical engineering.

I worked at NASA for a decade working on the Curiosity rover.

Yeah.

I was, I worked on the jet pack that lowers you to the ground and then some hardware on the top deck of the rover.

So the arm digs in the dirt, dumps it into the belly of the rover and my hardware like accepted the sample.

And it's still working to this day.

So fingers crossed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then I worked at Apple for five years in their special projects group.