Mark White-Robinson

And one of those meetings tomorrow, I'm meeting...

a new company that one of our investors has also invested in.

He's like, go meet this guy.

He's built a company based on these financial institution partnerships.

So it'd be really good to talk to him about his lessons he's learned.

So that kind of community is starting to get going now and that help that we were getting, but now we're getting in at a better and bigger way is really cool.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, it's cool.

There's just heaps of help out there, right?

That has been the biggest lesson I've taken from a startup, just asking for help and people saying, yes, how can I help?

Before we launched, we probably spent two years with...

a reasonably senior kind of governance guy who's been on a bunch of boards and chairs of boards on the NZX and things like that, who basically sat down with us every couple of weeks, talked us through kind of our ideas and helped us kind of come up with the business around our kind of tech idea.

He didn't do it for anything, right?

We'd go around to his house and he'd give us a beer and we'd sit there and we'd chat and

He never got anything back.

I think he just liked helping out people who were giving it a go, who had an idea, who wanted to try something.

And there's been a lot of people like that.

Right from day one, people who, like, get stuck in and introduce us to people, set up connections.

It's been amazing, yeah.

And that's the cool thing, I think, about New Zealand, right?