Mark White-Robinson

So building those partnerships with the fund managers as well so we can get you

Yeah, many bank accounts if you want.

So, personally, I've got my main bank account with ANZ and then...

I've got a KiwiBank credit card and that, and I've got it all just linked up.

Yep, yep.

We don't take the money from credit cards, so it has to be from like a transaction account.

So there's no cash advance fees, basically.

So everyone selects a funding account.

So that's where we initiate a transaction from, which then flows through the Fijar system and into your currently KiwiSaver in the future, like managed funds and things like that.

Yeah, cool.

But yeah, it doesn't matter.

Credit cards work, debit cards work, basically anything through just about any, well, every New Zealand bank and some other platforms as well.

Yeah, we're growing pretty fast.

So we're in a double-digit week-on-week growth.

We've maintained that pretty much since we launched.

It's been really exciting.

Part of our plan was we'd seen similar things overseas and we knew that it was something that worked overseas, that this kind of behavioural growth

stuff worked really well the traditional kind of way that people want to solve under saving and things like that is to get people to change their behaviour but we saw these kind of tech tools showing up overseas and we decided we wanted to build ourselves a tech tool to not change people's behaviour but use the behaviour that's already there to help them have a really good outcome which is building that wealth

which then snowballs into getting the compound growth and passive income and things like that through that.

Yeah, so we do that.