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Mark Williams-Cook

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The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

And these three sites are always linked to when people talk about cars and they must be really good.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

So if I'm looking for a document about cars, while there might be 10 million on my very small internet, the 10,000 that are in this little cluster, I'm going to look at first because everyone references them.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

And that's very, very, I guess, not doing it justice, but that's the basis for how I think Google really became what it is today in terms of building on top of that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

Now, AI Search doesn't have that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

They have the text from everywhere, but working out which is the best text apart from the most common, which is the issue we came to earlier, because the consensus answer isn't necessarily the best answer when you need expert information, right?

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

Now, it's not widely spoken about, but the large language model companies are actually buying Luke graph data from the companies, the SAS companies that spend a lot of time money making their own independent kind of

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

crawls of the web and they have their own kind of scores um which are similar to google's in some ways and they are selling that data which i assume is being used during pre-training to turn the volume up kind of on those sites because they we know they are for want of a better word good known good yeah so um and this this has worked really really quite well for a long time um

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

Not withstanding, as I said before, Google uses a lot of interaction, kind of click data to refine what it shows.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

But as a core, we can trust these documents.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

That's still the most impactful thing you can do, I think, in terms of SEO once you've done all the other basics is, you know, earn this coverage and links from people.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

Now, why I said it's going to rot and what kind of worries me is a lot of the AI search tools will do grounding, i.e.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

they will do a search, they will do a web search.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

And this is happening...

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

almost exclusively through Google and Bing.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

They're saying, okay, you've asked me this question.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

I know I need to check the answer.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

I'm going to quickly go and do three searches on Google, look at the first 10, 20, 30 documents, check what my model output and make sure everything is kind of hunky-dory and then give some very scant citations to who I just nixed all the content from.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

Now, those results are powered by that link graph.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

That link graph survives because people are out there journeying the open web, clicking on links, looking at websites.

The Neuron: AI Explained
AI vs Google Search....behind the scenes

But if we change to a paradigm where, well, I don't need to go to Reddit anymore to get this advice.