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Mark Zandi

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Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

We know this from history.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

I mean, our own history.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

You can hear it on the Nixon tapes, the conversations between President Nixon back in the early 70s and his friend who was chair of the Federal Reserve, Arthur Burns, at the time.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

And they kept rates lower than they would have otherwise in an effort to juice up the economy in the lead up to the 1972 election.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

And by so doing, they laid the stage for the inflation that followed.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

And it was a terrible time.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

period of hyperinflation that ultimately ended in, you know, Paul Volcker coming in, slamming the economy with higher interest rates and pushing the economy into a deep recession.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

There's a lot of other factors involved in that inflation in that very dark time.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

But, you know, one key factor was the loss of Fed independence.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

And, you know, we have experience overseas as well.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

Other countries like Argentina, Turkey, even the British, the UK, you know, not only until recently the Bank of England was not independent and you could see it in their inflation statistics, their inflation numbers are higher.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

So that's the outcome of a Fed or a central bank that loses independence.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

The predisposition is going to be of the executive branches to keep rates low, to try to keep the economy moving and strong leading into an election.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

and overdoing it, and the result will be inflation.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

So that's kind of the direction of travel here, and so why this is such a disconcerting thing.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

And, you know, hopefully the Fed can maintain some semblance of independence going forward.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

No, not yet.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

I think that's why investors are still kind of sitting on their hands waiting to see, because there's a lot of things that are going to transpire here in the next few weeks, few months.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

One, obviously, is the president's going to nominate a new chair to the Federal Reserve, Chair Powell.

Prof G Markets
Trump’s 25% Iran Tariffs Explained

His term is up as chair in May.