Mark Zuckerberg

And one of the shifts, and this is sort of like a values shift over time, is one of the things that Some of the early Oculus guys used to say to me that there's a difference between building good things and awesome things. And good is good. It's helpful. It's useful. It's things that people use on a day-to-day basis because it adds something to their lives. But awesome is different.

And one of the shifts, and this is sort of like a values shift over time, is one of the things that Some of the early Oculus guys used to say to me that there's a difference between building good things and awesome things. And good is good. It's helpful. It's useful. It's things that people use on a day-to-day basis because it adds something to their lives. But awesome is different.

Awesome is uplifting and inspiring and just like leads you to just be way more optimistic about the future. And it's just like this uplifting thing about humanity. And so I think a lot of what we've done with social media so far is very good. We've built these products. More than three billion people use them. on a near daily basis.

Awesome is uplifting and inspiring and just like leads you to just be way more optimistic about the future. And it's just like this uplifting thing about humanity. And so I think a lot of what we've done with social media so far is very good. We've built these products. More than three billion people use them. on a near daily basis.

Yeah. And they use it because it is useful in their life. And in all these different ways. I mean, obviously, people vary. People use it for different things. But it's useful. And it helps people stay connected. It helps people build businesses. It helps people form communities. It's good. There aren't that many people on a day-to-day basis who get out of bed and are like, fuck yeah, social media.

Yeah. And they use it because it is useful in their life. And in all these different ways. I mean, obviously, people vary. People use it for different things. But it's useful. And it helps people stay connected. It helps people build businesses. It helps people form communities. It's good. There aren't that many people on a day-to-day basis who get out of bed and are like, fuck yeah, social media.

So I kind of think for my next stage, for the next stage of the company, the next 15 years, I want us to build more things that are awesome in addition to things that are good. And I think that they both matter. To me, this is a little bit of the next stage of what I want our company to stand for and be. And so I think a lot of the Reality Lab stuff that we're doing is going to be in that bucket.

So I kind of think for my next stage, for the next stage of the company, the next 15 years, I want us to build more things that are awesome in addition to things that are good. And I think that they both matter. To me, this is a little bit of the next stage of what I want our company to stand for and be. And so I think a lot of the Reality Lab stuff that we're doing is going to be in that bucket.

A lot of the AI stuff that we're doing, I think, is going to be in that bucket. There are a bunch of things in the apps that are going to be in that bucket, too. New apps, too. But I don't know, I think that there's just something that's fundamentally pretty good about that. Maybe it's also just where I am in my life. I like to think I'm young, I'm a little older.

A lot of the AI stuff that we're doing, I think, is going to be in that bucket. There are a bunch of things in the apps that are going to be in that bucket, too. New apps, too. But I don't know, I think that there's just something that's fundamentally pretty good about that. Maybe it's also just where I am in my life. I like to think I'm young, I'm a little older.

I do think that at this point, it's not just a meta thing. Also, in my personal life, a lot of what I personally value is doing things that are inspiring with people who I find inspiring. And so there's the personal version of this. It's like I get to work on interesting science problems with Priscilla and my wife and a bunch of awesome people.

I do think that at this point, it's not just a meta thing. Also, in my personal life, a lot of what I personally value is doing things that are inspiring with people who I find inspiring. And so there's the personal version of this. It's like I get to work on interesting science problems with Priscilla and my wife and a bunch of awesome people.

I get to design shirts with some of the best fashion designers in the world. Statues. A sculpture of my wife. Bring back the Roman tradition of designing sculptures of people you love. I'm not at all being facetious. It's really cool. I think Daniel Arsham is a really talented guy. And I was like, that's a person who I'd love to work with on something. Let's go find a project.

I get to design shirts with some of the best fashion designers in the world. Statues. A sculpture of my wife. Bring back the Roman tradition of designing sculptures of people you love. I'm not at all being facetious. It's really cool. I think Daniel Arsham is a really talented guy. And I was like, that's a person who I'd love to work with on something. Let's go find a project.

One of my side projects is we have this cattle ranch in Kauai. And I'm trying to see if we can raise the highest quality beef in the world. And there's all this stuff. It starts with like, it's awesome. We got this steer. Chonk? He's just the man. He's the man.

One of my side projects is we have this cattle ranch in Kauai. And I'm trying to see if we can raise the highest quality beef in the world. And there's all this stuff. It starts with like, it's awesome. We got this steer. Chonk? He's just the man. He's the man.

We're having a hard time keeping him on the ranch because every time we put him in a steel enclosure and he sees a female cow, he busts through the steel enclosure. But I feel like that's the kind of bull that you want to make the highest quality beef in the world. And we're just working with, you know, trying to do really high quality, awesome things with awesome people.

We're having a hard time keeping him on the ranch because every time we put him in a steel enclosure and he sees a female cow, he busts through the steel enclosure. But I feel like that's the kind of bull that you want to make the highest quality beef in the world. And we're just working with, you know, trying to do really high quality, awesome things with awesome people.

If that's what I get to do for the next 15 or 20 years, then like, it's gonna be a good 15 or 20 years.

If that's what I get to do for the next 15 or 20 years, then like, it's gonna be a good 15 or 20 years.