Mark Zuckerberg

Yeah, yeah. Orion was meant to be our first consumer product. And we weren't sure if we were going to be able to pull it off. I mean, in general, it's probably turned out significantly better than our kind of 50-50 estimates of what it would be. But we didn't get there on everything that we wanted to.

I think we still want it to be a little smaller, a little brighter, like a little bit higher resolution, and a lot more affordable. Before we kind of put it out there as a product. And look, we have line of sight to all those things. So I think we'll probably have the thing that was going to be the V2 end up being the consumer product.

I think we still want it to be a little smaller, a little brighter, like a little bit higher resolution, and a lot more affordable. Before we kind of put it out there as a product. And look, we have line of sight to all those things. So I think we'll probably have the thing that was going to be the V2 end up being the consumer product.

I think we still want it to be a little smaller, a little brighter, like a little bit higher resolution, and a lot more affordable. Before we kind of put it out there as a product. And look, we have line of sight to all those things. So I think we'll probably have the thing that was going to be the V2 end up being the consumer product.

And we're going to use Orion with developers to basically cultivate the software experience. That way, by the time we're ready to ship something, it's going to be much more dialed in.

And we're going to use Orion with developers to basically cultivate the software experience. That way, by the time we're ready to ship something, it's going to be much more dialed in.

And we're going to use Orion with developers to basically cultivate the software experience. That way, by the time we're ready to ship something, it's going to be much more dialed in.

I always want to ship stuff quickly and all that. But I think it was the right thing. On this product, there's a pretty clear set of constraints that I think you want to hit.

I always want to ship stuff quickly and all that. But I think it was the right thing. On this product, there's a pretty clear set of constraints that I think you want to hit.

I always want to ship stuff quickly and all that. But I think it was the right thing. On this product, there's a pretty clear set of constraints that I think you want to hit.

especially around the form factor, right? I mean, it is very helpful for us that sort of chunkier glasses are kind of ascendant in the fashion world because that allows us to build glasses that are gonna be fashionable, but also tech forward. But even so, I'd say, you know, these are unmistakably glasses They're reasonably comfortable. They're, you know, under 100 grams.

especially around the form factor, right? I mean, it is very helpful for us that sort of chunkier glasses are kind of ascendant in the fashion world because that allows us to build glasses that are gonna be fashionable, but also tech forward. But even so, I'd say, you know, these are unmistakably glasses They're reasonably comfortable. They're, you know, under 100 grams.

especially around the form factor, right? I mean, it is very helpful for us that sort of chunkier glasses are kind of ascendant in the fashion world because that allows us to build glasses that are gonna be fashionable, but also tech forward. But even so, I'd say, you know, these are unmistakably glasses They're reasonably comfortable. They're, you know, under 100 grams.

Yeah, but I mean, I think we aspire to building things that like look really good, right? And I think this is like good glasses, but I want it to be a little smaller so it can fit within like really fashionable, right? When people see the Ray-Bans, there's no compromise on fashion. It's like part of why I think people like them

Yeah, but I mean, I think we aspire to building things that like look really good, right? And I think this is like good glasses, but I want it to be a little smaller so it can fit within like really fashionable, right? When people see the Ray-Bans, there's no compromise on fashion. It's like part of why I think people like them

Yeah, but I mean, I think we aspire to building things that like look really good, right? And I think this is like good glasses, but I want it to be a little smaller so it can fit within like really fashionable, right? When people see the Ray-Bans, there's no compromise on fashion. It's like part of why I think people like them

is, yeah, you get all this functionality, but even when you're not using it, they're great glasses. And I think for the future version of Orion, that's the target too. We want to make it so that, you know, most of the time you're going through your day, you're not computing, right? Or something is happening in the background or something.

is, yeah, you get all this functionality, but even when you're not using it, they're great glasses. And I think for the future version of Orion, that's the target too. We want to make it so that, you know, most of the time you're going through your day, you're not computing, right? Or something is happening in the background or something.

is, yeah, you get all this functionality, but even when you're not using it, they're great glasses. And I think for the future version of Orion, that's the target too. We want to make it so that, you know, most of the time you're going through your day, you're not computing, right? Or something is happening in the background or something.

So it just needs to be good in order for you to kind of want to keep it on your face. And I feel like we're almost there. I think we've made more progress than anyone else in the world that I'm aware of, but it didn't quite hit my bar. And similarly... On price, these are going to be more expensive than the Ray-Bans, right? I mean, there's just a lot more tech that's going in them.