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Mark Zuckerberg

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So it just needs to be good in order for you to kind of want to keep it on your face. And I feel like we're almost there. I think we've made more progress than anyone else in the world that I'm aware of, but it didn't quite hit my bar. And similarly... On price, these are going to be more expensive than the Ray-Bans, right? I mean, there's just a lot more tech that's going in them.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So it just needs to be good in order for you to kind of want to keep it on your face. And I feel like we're almost there. I think we've made more progress than anyone else in the world that I'm aware of, but it didn't quite hit my bar. And similarly... On price, these are going to be more expensive than the Ray-Bans, right? I mean, there's just a lot more tech that's going in them.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

But, you know, we do want to have it be within a consumer price point. This was outside that range. So I wanted to wait until we could get to that range in order to have something that we ship.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

But, you know, we do want to have it be within a consumer price point. This was outside that range. So I wanted to wait until we could get to that range in order to have something that we ship.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

But, you know, we do want to have it be within a consumer price point. This was outside that range. So I wanted to wait until we could get to that range in order to have something that we ship.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

We are using this as a developer kit, just primarily internally and maybe with a handful of partners. Okay. But, I mean, I think at this point, meta is by far the... kind of premier developer of augmented reality and virtual and mixed reality software and hardware in the world. So you can think about it as a developer kit, but we just have a lot of that talent in-house.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

We are using this as a developer kit, just primarily internally and maybe with a handful of partners. Okay. But, I mean, I think at this point, meta is by far the... kind of premier developer of augmented reality and virtual and mixed reality software and hardware in the world. So you can think about it as a developer kit, but we just have a lot of that talent in-house.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

We are using this as a developer kit, just primarily internally and maybe with a handful of partners. Okay. But, I mean, I think at this point, meta is by far the... kind of premier developer of augmented reality and virtual and mixed reality software and hardware in the world. So you can think about it as a developer kit, but we just have a lot of that talent in-house.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And then we also have well-developed partnerships with a lot of folks externally who we can go to and work with them as well. So I don't think we need to go announce a dev kit that kind of arbitrary developers can go buy to get access to the talent that we need to go build out the platform. I think we're kind of in a place where we can work with partners and do that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And then we also have well-developed partnerships with a lot of folks externally who we can go to and work with them as well. So I don't think we need to go announce a dev kit that kind of arbitrary developers can go buy to get access to the talent that we need to go build out the platform. I think we're kind of in a place where we can work with partners and do that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And then we also have well-developed partnerships with a lot of folks externally who we can go to and work with them as well. So I don't think we need to go announce a dev kit that kind of arbitrary developers can go buy to get access to the talent that we need to go build out the platform. I think we're kind of in a place where we can work with partners and do that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

But that's absolutely what we're going to do over the next few years. hone the experience and figure out what we need to do to really nail it when it's ready to ship.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

But that's absolutely what we're going to do over the next few years. hone the experience and figure out what we need to do to really nail it when it's ready to ship.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

But that's absolutely what we're going to do over the next few years. hone the experience and figure out what we need to do to really nail it when it's ready to ship.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Yeah, probably. Yeah. But I mean, overall... for reality labs. For a while, a lot of people thought of all of that budget is going towards virtual and mixed reality. And I actually think we've said publicly that our glasses programs are a bigger budget than our virtual and mixed reality programs. But that goes across all of them, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Yeah, probably. Yeah. But I mean, overall... for reality labs. For a while, a lot of people thought of all of that budget is going towards virtual and mixed reality. And I actually think we've said publicly that our glasses programs are a bigger budget than our virtual and mixed reality programs. But that goes across all of them, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Yeah, probably. Yeah. But I mean, overall... for reality labs. For a while, a lot of people thought of all of that budget is going towards virtual and mixed reality. And I actually think we've said publicly that our glasses programs are a bigger budget than our virtual and mixed reality programs. But that goes across all of them, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So that's the kind of full AR, that's the display-less glasses, like all the work we're gonna do on Ray-Ban. And we just announced the expanded partnership with Luxottica. Essilor Luxottica, great company. We've had a great experience working with them. They designed so many great glasses. And I think working with them to do even more is going to be really exciting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So that's the kind of full AR, that's the display-less glasses, like all the work we're gonna do on Ray-Ban. And we just announced the expanded partnership with Luxottica. Essilor Luxottica, great company. We've had a great experience working with them. They designed so many great glasses. And I think working with them to do even more is going to be really exciting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So that's the kind of full AR, that's the display-less glasses, like all the work we're gonna do on Ray-Ban. And we just announced the expanded partnership with Luxottica. Essilor Luxottica, great company. We've had a great experience working with them. They designed so many great glasses. And I think working with them to do even more is going to be really exciting.