Mark Zuckerberg
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Yeah, I mean, I think we're having a lot more fun now. They get to work on all the stuff. It's awesome.
Yeah, I mean, I think we're having a lot more fun now. They get to work on all the stuff. It's awesome.
I think that there's different schools of thought on how to do it. I think some people think, OK, I want to go start a company, so I'm going to go dive into this idea. And I just think that that's a little bit dangerous because there's this issue, which is you have to be able to be nimble and pivot around until you can figure out what works.
I think that there's different schools of thought on how to do it. I think some people think, OK, I want to go start a company, so I'm going to go dive into this idea. And I just think that that's a little bit dangerous because there's this issue, which is you have to be able to be nimble and pivot around until you can figure out what works.
Part of the reason why I didn't think Facebook was going to be the company early on was because when I was in school, I built 12 different things. that were just things that I wanted to exist. And I was like, all right, this is fun. OK, let's build another thing. It's like, OK, this one's fun. People are still using that. I'll help up keep this one.
Part of the reason why I didn't think Facebook was going to be the company early on was because when I was in school, I built 12 different things. that were just things that I wanted to exist. And I was like, all right, this is fun. OK, let's build another thing. It's like, OK, this one's fun. People are still using that. I'll help up keep this one.
But I had a bunch of other ideas for stuff I was going to build too. So I didn't know how to think about what a company was going to be. And so I think there's something about maintaining flexibility that's helpful. Once you hire a bunch of people, It's a lot easier when you can just have meetings in your own head about what direction you want to go in.
But I had a bunch of other ideas for stuff I was going to build too. So I didn't know how to think about what a company was going to be. And so I think there's something about maintaining flexibility that's helpful. Once you hire a bunch of people, It's a lot easier when you can just have meetings in your own head about what direction you want to go in.
And there's a lot less pride and people dug in when you're just like, okay, I'm going to change direction. People haven't invested their ego in like, no, we were going in this direction, and now I must be convinced. It's like, nah. So I do think that that's a thing where you want to keep things lean and be able to do that. And that's one of the reasons why we tried to get the company back to it.
And there's a lot less pride and people dug in when you're just like, okay, I'm going to change direction. People haven't invested their ego in like, no, we were going in this direction, and now I must be convinced. It's like, nah. So I do think that that's a thing where you want to keep things lean and be able to do that. And that's one of the reasons why we tried to get the company back to it.
being whatever the leanest version of a large company is that we can be. But I do think that there's something to that, where it's like, obviously it's not super fun not having the resources to do what you wanna do, but I think it also is problematic to have more people working on something than you should have for the stage that it's at.
being whatever the leanest version of a large company is that we can be. But I do think that there's something to that, where it's like, obviously it's not super fun not having the resources to do what you wanna do, but I think it also is problematic to have more people working on something than you should have for the stage that it's at.
Because then the people who are working on it don't have the agency to actually make the changes and do the things that they need to, which is less fun. And then you can't attract the best people to go work on those things because it's less fun. And so I do think you just have to dial it right.
Because then the people who are working on it don't have the agency to actually make the changes and do the things that they need to, which is less fun. And then you can't attract the best people to go work on those things because it's less fun. And so I do think you just have to dial it right.
I mean, well, I think some of the stuff, by the time you're at the scale that we're at, is also just about, like, what do you want to do over the next 10 to 20 years? And what do you think are going to be important?
I mean, well, I think some of the stuff, by the time you're at the scale that we're at, is also just about, like, what do you want to do over the next 10 to 20 years? And what do you think are going to be important?
And, you know, we were talking about, like, making your own luck and all that and how, you know, it's like, I think there are some broad strokes that we can have a sense of where things are going. I'm pretty sure glasses and kind of, like, holographic presence and AR is going to be a completely ubiquitous thing. product, right?
And, you know, we were talking about, like, making your own luck and all that and how, you know, it's like, I think there are some broad strokes that we can have a sense of where things are going. I'm pretty sure glasses and kind of, like, holographic presence and AR is going to be a completely ubiquitous thing. product, right?
It's just like everyone who had a phone before replaced it with a smartphone, and then a lot of more people got smartphones. If all we get is all the people in the world who already have glasses upgrading to glasses that have AI in them, then this is already going to be one of the most successful products in the history of the world. And I think it's going to go a lot further than that.
It's just like everyone who had a phone before replaced it with a smartphone, and then a lot of more people got smartphones. If all we get is all the people in the world who already have glasses upgrading to glasses that have AI in them, then this is already going to be one of the most successful products in the history of the world. And I think it's going to go a lot further than that.