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Mark Zuckerberg

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I think that that's, I guess, one of the... Bioweapons are one of the areas where I think the people who are most worried about this stuff are focused.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And I think that makes a lot of sense to think about that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And I think that there are certain mitigations.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

You can try to not train certain knowledge into the model, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

There's different things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

But yeah, I mean, at some level, I mean, if you get a sufficiently bad actor and you don't have other AI that can sort of balance them and understand what's going on and what the threats are, then that could be a risk.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

So I think that that's one of the things that we need to watch out for.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

Um,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I mean, I think that that's not necessarily, I mean, right now it's, we see a lot of hallucinations, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

So I think it's more, more that, um, um, I think it's an, it's an interesting question how you would tell the difference between a hallucination and deception, but yeah, I mean, I look, I mean, I think that there's a lot of risks and things to think about the, um,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

The flip side of all this is that there are also a lot of... I try to, in running our company at least, balance what I think of as these longer-term theoretical risks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

with what I actually think are quite real risks that exist today.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

So when you talk about deception, the form of that that I worry about most is people using this to generate misinformation and then pump that through, whether it's our networks or others.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

So the way that we've basically...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

combated a lot of this type of harmful content is by building AI systems that are smarter than the adversarial ones.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

This kind of informs part of my theory on this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

If you look at the different types of harm that people do or try to do through social networks...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

There are ones that are not very adversarial.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

So for example, like hate speech, I would say is not super adversarial in the sense that like people aren't getting better at being racist, right?