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Mark Zuckerberg

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And I kind of think that a world where AI is very widely deployed in a way where it's gotten hardened progressively over time and is one where all the different systems will be in check in a way that seems like it is fundamentally more healthy to me than one where this is more concentrated.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

So there are risks on all sides, but I think that that's one risk that I think people, I don't hear them talking about quite as much.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I think like there's sort of the risk of like, okay, well, what if the AI system does something bad?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I am more like, you know, I stay up at night more worrying.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

Well, what if like,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

some actor that whatever it's like from wherever you sit there's going to be some actor who you don't trust if they're the ones who have like the super strong ai whether it's some like other government that we that that is sort of like an opponent of of our country or some company that you don't trust or whatever it is um

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I think that that's potentially a much bigger risk.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

It would just cause a lot of mayhem.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I think it's like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I mean, I think the intuition is that this stuff ends up being pretty kind of important and valuable for both kind of economic and kind of security and other things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And I don't know.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I just think, yeah, if someone who you don't trust or is an adversary of you gets something that is more powerful than...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I think that that could be an issue.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And I think probably the best way to mitigate that is to have good open source AI that basically becomes the standard and in a lot of ways kind of can become the leader.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And in that way, it just ensures that it's a much more kind of even and balanced playing field.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

If you take the computer, the security one that I was talking about,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I think someone with a weaker AI trying to hack into a system that is protected by a stronger AI will succeed less.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

In terms of software security- How do you know everything in the world is like that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

What if bioweapons aren't like that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

No, I mean, I don't know that everything in the world is like that.