Mark Zuckerberg

And basically when we were answering those questions, which a lot of the hard work that, I think a lot of the teams at Meta, although there are other folks in the industry, but really the Llama models were the ones that I think broke open this whole open source AI thing in a huge way.

we were very focused on, okay, if we're going to put all this energy into it, then at a minimum, if you're going to have these large cloud companies like Microsoft and Amazon and Google turn around and sell our model, that

we should at least be able to have a conversation with them before they do that around, um, around basically like, okay, what kind of business arrangement should we have?

But, but our goal with the, with the license isn't, um, you know, we're generally not trying to stop people from using the model.

We, we just think like, okay, if you're like one of those companies or I don't know if you're Apple, um, you know, just come talk to us about what you want to do and, and let's find like a productive way to, to do it together.

So I think that that's generally been fine.

Now, um,

If the whole open source part of the industry evolves in a direction where there's a lot of other great options, and if the license ends up being a reason why people don't want to use Llama, then I don't know.

We'll have to reevaluate the strategy, what it makes sense to do at that point.

I just don't think we're there.

That's not in practice a thing that we've seen companies coming to us and saying, we don't want to use this because your license says that if you reach 700 million people, you have to come talk to us.

At least so far, it's a little bit more of something that we've heard from like kind of open source purists.

Like, is this as clean of an open source model as you'd like it to be?

And look, I mean, I think that debate has existed since the beginning of open source with like...

you know, the, you know, just all the GPL license stuff versus other things.

And it's like, okay, just like, does it need to be the case that anything that touches open source can has to, has to be open source or can people just take it and use it in different ways?

And I'm sure there'll continue being debates around this, but yeah,

I don't know, if you're spending many, many billions of dollars training these models, I think asking the other companies that are also huge and similar in size and can easily kind of afford to have a relationship with us to talk to us before they use it, I think it seems like a pretty reasonable thing.

Well, again, I mean, we do a lot of things.

So it's possible that, you know, I guess let's take a step back.