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Mark Zuckerberg

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

I mean, look, I think realistically, this gets back to the open source things that we talked about before, which is I don't think that the world will be best served by any small number of organizations having this without it being something that is more broadly available.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

And I think if you look through history...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

it's when there are these sort of like unipolar advances and things and like power imbalances that they're doing to being kind of weird situations.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

So this is one of the reasons why I think open source is generally

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

the right approach.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

And, you know, I think it's a, it's a categorically different question today when we're not close to super intelligence.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

I think that there's a good chance that even once we get closer to super intelligence, open sourcing remains the right approach, even though I think at that point it's a somewhat different debate.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

Um,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

But I think part of that is that that is, you know, I think one of the best ways to ensure that the system is as secure and safe as possible.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

Because it's not just about a lot of people having access to it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

It's the scrutiny that kind of comes with building an open source system.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

I think that this is a pretty widely accepted thing about open source is that...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

You have the code out there, so anyone can see the vulnerabilities.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

Anyone can kind of mess with it in different ways.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

People can spin off their own projects and experiment in a ton of different ways.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

And the net result of all of that is that the systems just get hardened and get to be a lot safer and more secure.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

So I think that there's a chance that that ends up being the way that this goes to, a pretty good chance, and that...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

Having this be open both leads to a healthier development of the technology and also leads to a more balanced distribution of the technology in a way that strike me as good values to aspire to.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

Yeah, and to be clear, I feel quite confident in the assessment that open sourcing models now is net positive.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#383 – Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp

I think there's a good argument that in the future it will be too, even as you get closer to superintelligence.