Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Libraries Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Marnie Chesterton

πŸ‘€ Speaker
3951 total appearances
Voice ID

Voice Profile Active

This person's voice can be automatically recognized across podcast episodes using AI voice matching.

Voice samples: 3
Confidence: High

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

It's estimated that 54% of transition minerals are located in or near indigenous territories.

1767 View full episode β†’
Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

And those are minerals that are used for things like data center construction, EV batteries, making smart weapons, smartphones, etc.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

They're critical to essentially the data infrastructure that we use today.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

And because they're on indigenous territories or nearby, it often drives things like land grabbing, displacement, and biodiversity loss.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

But there's also this really big issue that folks are talking about, and that's data governance.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

So indigenous peoples typically maintain that indigenous data is collectively owned.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

And existing national and international data privacy laws generally fail to recognize this.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

So, for example, the General Data Protection Regulation of the European Union prohibits

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

It protects individuals, but it doesn't recognize collective ownership.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

So as a result, companies can make technical use of data originating from indigenous territories like satellite images or climate and language data.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

And they can do this without any obligation to obtain community consent.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

So it's a really big topic of conversation now and looking at that sort of double-edged sword of AI use.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

OK.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

And do you think what's going to happen is that indigenous peoples are going to have to change their rule and get a sort of an indigenous version of GDPR?

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

Potentially.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

I mean, I think it's probably more looking at how state and national governments around the world can align their laws and regulations to be more supportive of Indigenous rights.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

So I think that's obviously a bigger move to try and sort of get the world to lurch over to recognizing Indigenous rights.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

But having stronger, more ethical sort of laws in place and guidance principles in place, I think, is really what people are talking about in terms of what these next steps look like.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

Well, thank you both for insights into AI in Africa, fitting nicely into our Africa Day theme.

Unexpected Elements
Celebrating Science on Africa Day

It's time for that bit of the