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Marti DeLima

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270 total appearances

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Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Who is this?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And then it might lead into just some interaction, very friendly.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Then maybe after quite a few text messages.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

These are long cons, right?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

These don't happen overnight.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

The criminal might say, oh, by the way, my uncle is trading in this new cryptocurrency.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

He's let me bring in a few friends.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Do you want to get in on it?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

I can help you download this app.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And these scam centers also have app developers.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

So they can make really legitimate looking investment apps that make it look like your crypto investment is going up and up and up.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And it's when you actually try to take out that cash, you realize that it's all smoke and mirrors and the money is gone.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

The other troubling thing is many of these scammers come back at their target pretending to help them recover their funds.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

So they might pretend that they're a local law firm or that they're a federal government agency.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

One thing we can't forget is how much capital these criminal organizations have amassed.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

So they do have funds to pay marketing teams and to do A-B testing on messages.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

It's more sophisticated than most people know.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

I mean, these scam organizations have attorneys.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

They have HR departments.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

The scammers have to meet quotas.