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Marti DeLima

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270 total appearances

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Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

It is organized like a legitimate business.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

They use mass marketing tactics.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

But I think it's getting more and more tailored with the tools that AI affords us and scammers.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

They can do more kind of background research, especially on high value targets.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

On individuals.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

There are scams that are literally so good that they could fool any of us.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Some of the best take advantage of existing problems with are slow bureaucracies, poor customer service.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Let's say you get a text from your bank that says, did you make this purchase?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

It says you bought an Apple computer or something.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

So, of course, a wise scam literate person would say, I'm pretty sure I didn't purchase an Apple computer and this is probably a scam, but let me call my financial institution and I'm not going to be foolish and click the number that appeared in the text message.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

I'm going to go on the website and I'm going to call their actual number.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

So here's the thing.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Bank call centers are so busy that you often hear a message that we will save your place in line.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Just click one, record your name, and we'll call you back when it's your turn.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Scammers know this.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

So what will they do?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

They'll wait 30 minutes after they sent that text message and call you, and they will have faked the caller ID.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

So it will say Chase Bank, U.S.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Bank, Bank of America, whatever the bank that they initially pretended to be, and ask you questions and confirm your identity.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

They'll probably have information about you already.