Martin Devlin

And Ardy at seven.

And does Wallace start at six then?

Let's go back to South Africa, though, when he made his debut.

He was a number eight when he went there and Razor put him at six and he was brilliant, Mark.

And that's the hardest place to play in a team that was going backwards and lost two tests and he stood out.

Yeah, I agree.

And look, Max always talks as well, and I bow to him, about the complementary nature of these three players.

And I agree with you that we are going to need some height in that loose forward trio.

Because if we're going with, say, Vahey and Lorde, we've got height there, but we need someone else in that loose forward trio.

Yeah, it's a good argument, I think.

Look, the thing with Fina is that, to me, he is everything that I have wanted to replace Jerome, to replace Shannon Frizzell.

He fits the mould.

Everything about him when you look at him, and on paper, but again...

Do you give him this chance to prove himself, Mark?

Do you throw him in there in these three tests and say, dude, here it is.

You want it.

It's yours.

Grab it.

yeah it's just that big question mark i mean who who starts at six okay would you have would you have scott baron in the team if he was fit no would you be you you wouldn't would you would definitely see i was too i would be starting him and via as my locks if if he was fit so but he's not so he's not in there even if harvey and holland was fit as well i'd still have scott barrett actually that's a good point yeah so actually i might actually start fabian and i'm and by next to each other off the bench john you'd bring reuben thorne back out mate no sure would he be captain yeah

Absolutely loved him.