Martin Devlin

But as I said, he might have had it in the back of his mind.

And I saw it on a number of occasions throughout the weekend where players would roll their eyes.

The Moana players definitely had given up.

So they were, oh, yeah, what are you going to do to me type scenario.

So you get that in any game.

You get that in any team.

There's always going to be one of those jokers who doesn't care.

Yeah, so I'll just say that the two phases prior to this instance, if you go and watch it on Sky Sport now, you'll be able to see the picture-perfect way of a tackled player placing the ball well away from the Crusaders being able to get anywhere near it.

And then you get this situation where the ball is turned over.

So what he says, Barry calls that he has won the ball before he's gone to ground.

He is in a, as a jackler, he wasn't part of the tackle.

So he is allowed to come in.

Arguably, he is sort of lifting the player somewhat, which isn't a legal move.

And there's also the potential that he's leaning on the player.

He definitely rolls to the ground.

I think that he wasn't on his feet when he took the ball.

But Nick has seen a picture that he believes, because he's on the far side of that ruck as well, he believes that he's taken the ball.

That's right.

So it was marginal.

It could have gone either way.