Martin Devlin

I think you wouldn't be overly upset to have it go against you.

You obviously probably would be if they were against you.

But look, as a jackler, I think he was in the right position.

But again, I mean, that's probably not – actually, I was going to say the AR could come in on that.

An AR wouldn't come in on a call like that because it's not something that they should be involved in.

The ruck really is the domain of the referee.

Okay.

Look, I'd just like to say, when I grow up and I'm a real boy, I would love to be Angus.

He's such a wonderful referee.

Oh, how good.

Yeah, no, he admonishes him.

He clearly explains what's going on.

And then you've got the captain coming back and going, but what about them?

Like, that's quintessential.

That's what a captain's going to do.

And then he explains quite correctly...

Now, I know the instance that you're talking about, he milked it.

So he's so good at the game.

He knows what he's seeing.

He's got, I don't know, like a five minute buffer of what's gone on previously in the match so that when the captain does come to him to have a moan, he's able to go, you're talking about that.