Martin Hatting

So many, a couple of chief marketing officers that I'm following and studying, but not a, not a CEO particularly.

Um, web, uh, Prada.io actually.

proto.io prototyping tool wireframe and prototyping number four how many hours of sleep do you get every night i stick with my eight hours i need them that's good in situation married single kids you mentioned uh what 45 if i've married no kids lots of bicycles to take care of all right last question something you wish you knew when you were 20

I wish I knew how much risk I could take at that stage without consequences.

Thank you, Nathan.

Appreciate it.