Martin Koppelmann

So long story short,

Eventually, I do expect them to join, but maybe not first.

No, exactly that.

So people, or at least the previous generation was used to that state that kind of everything was available and composable.

And yeah, we are trying to get as close as possible to that feeling back.

So essentially there will just be a

there will just be a translation.

So if you have an address on another chain, there will just be a translation of how you convert this address to a proxy address.

So kind of a representation on the chain you are at.

And then the promise is you can just call this proxy representation, this

as if it would live on your chain and kind of everything behind the scenes is kind of then abstracted from you or from the app.

So yeah, ideally it will not be that complicated and it works.

It doesn't require apps to build from scratch on you.

I think that would be a terrible mistake.

We have 10 years of smart contracts that are available and we want all of this to work with those contracts that are already out there.

And first, this is correct, also saying kind of even this or in this setup, also, even if you would have to kind of move tokens or that would also work within one transaction.

So kind of theoretically, both setups are possible that you keep your tokens there, but still kind of borrow against them on this other chain or just within the same transaction, you move the tokens, lock them there, borrow against them.

And again, but do it all in one transaction.

Very cool.

Very cool.