Martin Wolf

There are still elections and the elections aren't completely rigged.

They're certainly biased, but they're not completely rigged, we think or hope.

And even though it's not a liberal democracy, so the elections are in all sorts of way distorted by control of the media, difficulties for other parties to have the sort of presence that the ruling party does.

Nonetheless, it's there.

And we know from experience, we saw this in Poland in the last election, or the last parliamentary election, that in that situation, if the

The public's antipathy to the ruler, this sort of ruler, is sufficiently great.

The margin of victory for the opposition can be so big that it can't be overwhelmed by all those forces that the regime has in its favor.

And I hope, many hope, that that will be the case in Hungary.

Of course,

If it's a close vote, I would expect Oban to win.

But if it's a huge margin against him, it may be impossible for him to rig it.

Now, I'm no expertise on this, but that's obviously the optimistic view that...

He has now run out of road.

The hostility to him is so great that he won't be able to pull out another victory.

But we shall see.

That's a very, very good and fundamental question.

And perhaps the problem in a way is there are so many different theories about and they might all be a bit, I think, all be a bit true.

I think there have been very profound economic and social changes which have destabilized the traditional parties and the traditional sort of divisions within public opinion on class lines and have...

And they have also destabilized many people's views of themselves.

So, to take a few examples of this, mass immigration has clearly destabilized people's view of who are the citizens.