Marty

And I think that's going to be a key word going forward for the All Blacks.

And I fully expected to hear it in the messaging this year.

Let us be optimistic.

Let us look at what is in front of us.

Let us look at the potential opportunities.

of how great this team can be.

Let us look at what might happen if we achieve these things.

And just this is our perspective on it.

This is not looking at South Africa, who are just a machine at the moment.

We know how good they are.

But just imagine if we managed to climb that mountain and win over there.

Is that important as well, thinking along those kind of lines?

Well, thank you so much for your time.

Again, congratulations on being back in this environment.

I could talk to you for hours, but I know that you're really busy.

You're actually at the Auckland Book Festival.

Become Unstoppable is your book.

It's had about eight reprints.

You were speaking to 1,200 kids the other day, 1,900 kids the other day, which must be awe-inspiring for a start as well.

And it must be very humbling as well, I would think, that when they start asking you questions and peppering you with things, what are a couple of things that you've gathered from standing in front of those crowds of young people and young people today with all the things that are going on in their brains today?