Marvin Russell

I don't pay for anything.

And I get better customers than them because I get people who are looking to make a checklist right then and there.

Well, think about a competitor, right?

They put an ad out in the productivity space and they're putting ads out hoping that people who just want to be more productive click on their link and go to their website and, oh, maybe they'll make a to-do list.

We don't have to do that.

We get people who type in the word checklist and want a checklist right now.

So our

We definitely have a lot of challenges out there, but I would consider our customer base way more targeted, way more focused.

And a lot of those companies or competitors would kill to have the type of potential customers that come to our site because they're direct.

Yeah, you should make a checklist.

Make a checklist of top entrepreneur podcasts, the 20 top entrepreneur podcasts.

And if you make a good checklist, and maybe in a couple of weeks, your checklist will rank... That checklist will rank number one for top podcasts to listen to for entrepreneurs.

And boom, if your podcast is number one, you'll get a lot more viewers.

I'm just giving you another example of how you would use the actual system.

So

That's how we differentiate from a lot of checklist apps out there.

And trust me, we hear left and right that people want a free version of this checklist software.

We hear it left and right and we're exploring ways to make a version free very, very good.

That's the thing, they don't want to pay for it.

The question is how you monetize it.