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Mary Beard

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
242 total appearances

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The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

But he's brought up in a political structure which is built on a detestation of monarchy, and that's quite important, eventually, for Caesar, and a commitment to power sharing

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

and to no one amongst the traditional elite getting really above the others.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

I mean, it's a hugely competitive society.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

The rich and powerful at Rome are competing to hold offices that we call magistracies, but then not particularly to do with law.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

And from that to gain military office too, because military office and political office are absolutely hand in hand.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

And you've got a relatively small number of families who were in that political game.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

But nobody, and this is the basic principle, nobody is...

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

for any length of time becoming above the others.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

And that's why it's not really a democracy.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

I think calling it a democracy is misleading.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

The people, the ordinary people, and there are many, many, many more of those than the elite do have some power,

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

There are popular assemblies in which the Romans decide, for example, whether to pass this or that law, whether to go to war or not.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

So the people do have that tremendous influence.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

It's their votes that make it possible for somebody to become an official.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

Yes, yes.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

I mean, even the most radical, and Caesar in some ways is going to turn out to be the most radical, are from old, established families.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

I think, though, that what is puzzling and what is the problem, really, of Rome at this point is that they've got, on the one hand, they've got this vast territorial empire, but they are trying to run that empire

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

on an infrastructure which was well-suited to running a small city-state in 400 BC, regular turnover of office, nobody having much power, but is woefully unsuited to really dealing with the issues and the problems that inevitably come with a large empire.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

I mean, Rome's boiling.

The Rest Is History
Julius Caesar, with Mary Beard

And in the end, it's going to boil over, which is really, in a sense, what it does with Caesar.