Mary Beth Chapman

We had some really tough, almost call it moments.

There were days where it's like, I'm not working on this today.

You can do that.

Yeah, I think it does.

And for us at the same time, I won't put words in your mouth.

I think it also, I have found that doing some of these interviews, it's been reassuring to go, wait,

we we did that we had some really tough almost call it moments like really hard really hard it's it's been a it's been a journey and yet doing some of these interviews and the writing process it's been like we no longer did it we conquered it we made it and and yeah and it's both it's both right because it's like there were days where it's like i'm

I'm not working on this today.

You can do that.

I can't.

I can't.

Anytime you're trying to step and push darkness back and help somebody—

you would be foolish not to think that the enemy is not going to rear its ugly head, which is why I keep telling Steve, maybe we should like, let's, let's go start a casino.

Yeah.

Maybe we should do something where the enemy's not like, I'm not on that.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

Oh, this is fun.

So my maiden name is Chapman.

Did you know that?