Mary Goodhart

I mean, you can feel the foreshadowing, can't you?

I mean, you can feel the foreshadowing, can't you?

And we know that this is leading to the confrontation. Yeah. We know exactly where this is going. And it's so frustrating because this is exactly the point where the mystery begins for us.

And we know that this is leading to the confrontation. Yeah. We know exactly where this is going. And it's so frustrating because this is exactly the point where the mystery begins for us.

I do have a lead.

I do have a lead.

okay so we up till this point we've been looking mainly at the creators who were and there's sort of a vague list of who we think is there but actually i have a lead on the side of vine hq so this is actually someone who has been mentioned to us a few times by creators this is a lady called karen spencer

okay so we up till this point we've been looking mainly at the creators who were and there's sort of a vague list of who we think is there but actually i have a lead on the side of vine hq so this is actually someone who has been mentioned to us a few times by creators this is a lady called karen spencer

So she joined Vine in 2015. According to her LinkedIn, she was head of creators, which already makes her kind of pretty fascinating because we're looking at this, you know, we've got the Vine team and then we've got the creators. They're sort of two separate worlds. And the fact that she was brought in to be a bridge between them already, I want to talk to her.

So she joined Vine in 2015. According to her LinkedIn, she was head of creators, which already makes her kind of pretty fascinating because we're looking at this, you know, we've got the Vine team and then we've got the creators. They're sort of two separate worlds. And the fact that she was brought in to be a bridge between them already, I want to talk to her.

Exactly. So in the course of reading about her, I found one article that just casually mentioned that she was there leading the conversation for Vine.

Exactly. So in the course of reading about her, I found one article that just casually mentioned that she was there leading the conversation for Vine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.

No.

It would be. But here is the twist.

It would be. But here is the twist.

It is so incredibly clear that she has moved on with her life. Okay. And she has done it in the most dramatic way you could imagine. She's literally moved to Costa Rica. Right. She's living in the jungle. Right.

It is so incredibly clear that she has moved on with her life. Okay. And she has done it in the most dramatic way you could imagine. She's literally moved to Costa Rica. Right. She's living in the jungle. Right.