Mary Margaret Olihan
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I do think it was very individualized depending on the person I talked to. Luca, for example, was on testosterone for four years before she stopped taking it. Helena was on testosterone for a much shorter time. And thank God, Helena did not get a double mastectomy. So she detransitioned more quickly than some of the other ones.
But I will say that though there are a lot of patterns in all these detransitioners' stories, each one is really unique in the really sad suffering that they went through. And I think they would all tell you that they have very individualized experiences, but they've all started speaking up. Specifically, the detransitioners who are in my book, they go and testify before state lawmakers.
But I will say that though there are a lot of patterns in all these detransitioners' stories, each one is really unique in the really sad suffering that they went through. And I think they would all tell you that they have very individualized experiences, but they've all started speaking up. Specifically, the detransitioners who are in my book, they go and testify before state lawmakers.
They speak very frequently and try and help other people with gender dysphoria. And they would tell you that detransition is not the end and that they're living very fruitful and exciting lives. Prisha Mosley, for example, is about to have a baby, which is honestly a miracle given what she has been through. So that's something that I'm really happy for her and excited to see her start a family.
They speak very frequently and try and help other people with gender dysphoria. And they would tell you that detransition is not the end and that they're living very fruitful and exciting lives. Prisha Mosley, for example, is about to have a baby, which is honestly a miracle given what she has been through. So that's something that I'm really happy for her and excited to see her start a family.
In terms of detransitioning, that is something that's very hard for the detransitioner to tell their parents because in Luca's case, her parents hadn't wanted her to transition. They were nervous, they were scared, but they thought that it was the best thing to do. They were told by doctors that it was the best thing for their daughter and she herself had to convince them to go through with it.
In terms of detransitioning, that is something that's very hard for the detransitioner to tell their parents because in Luca's case, her parents hadn't wanted her to transition. They were nervous, they were scared, but they thought that it was the best thing to do. They were told by doctors that it was the best thing for their daughter and she herself had to convince them to go through with it.
So she said that when she called her mother to tell her this was all a mistake, it was one of the hardest conversations she had ever had. Because in effect, she was saying, you were right. And my life has been fundamentally changed by all of this. And you knew what you were talking about, but you trusted the doctors instead of yourself.
So she said that when she called her mother to tell her this was all a mistake, it was one of the hardest conversations she had ever had. Because in effect, she was saying, you were right. And my life has been fundamentally changed by all of this. And you knew what you were talking about, but you trusted the doctors instead of yourself.
And I think that's a really tragic conversation to have to have with your parent.
And I think that's a really tragic conversation to have to have with your parent.
That I am interested in knowing myself, John, because some of these detransitioners are very respectful of their families and they don't want to necessarily throw them under the bus on this. So I don't hear a ton about resentment when it comes to the detransitioners' relationships with their families. I think that they're aware that
That I am interested in knowing myself, John, because some of these detransitioners are very respectful of their families and they don't want to necessarily throw them under the bus on this. So I don't hear a ton about resentment when it comes to the detransitioners' relationships with their families. I think that they're aware that
This is a topic that they have to be careful about, you know, because I think many are quick to call out parents for allowing their children to go down this path and rightfully so. But at the same time, the detransitioners want there to be empathy for their parents and what they went through.
This is a topic that they have to be careful about, you know, because I think many are quick to call out parents for allowing their children to go down this path and rightfully so. But at the same time, the detransitioners want there to be empathy for their parents and what they went through.
Although I should add, there absolutely are parents who are pushing their children down this path for selfish and narcissistic reasons. And those parents really should be held accountable for their actions.
Although I should add, there absolutely are parents who are pushing their children down this path for selfish and narcissistic reasons. And those parents really should be held accountable for their actions.
Yeah, this is probably the most emotional chapter in the book to me. I spoke with Abby Martinez, the mother of Yalie Martinez, a young girl who grew up in California. And Yalie stumbled into some bad friendships in high school. The school began socially transitioning her. So speaking to her as though she were a boy, having her meet with a therapist who was similarly treating her.
Yeah, this is probably the most emotional chapter in the book to me. I spoke with Abby Martinez, the mother of Yalie Martinez, a young girl who grew up in California. And Yalie stumbled into some bad friendships in high school. The school began socially transitioning her. So speaking to her as though she were a boy, having her meet with a therapist who was similarly treating her.
And Yalie slowly but surely began to distance from her mother, from her family. And ultimately the California Department of Child and Family Services took Yalie away from her family and started her on testosterone.