Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult: True Detrans Stories | 2.1.25
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On Tuesday, President Trump signed an executive order designed to protect children from so-called gender transition procedures, a massive reversal from the Biden administration's aggressive pro-trans policies. The sweeping order calls subjecting children to these irreversible procedures a stain on our nation's history and declares the U.S. will no longer fund, sponsor, promote, or support the attempted gender transition of a child.
In light of this watershed moment, we decided to re-release an interview we conducted this summer with Mary Margaret Olihan, who's now The Daily Wire's White House correspondent, about her book on the transgender medical industry and the growing number of people who now regret their attempted transition. I'm Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Saturday, February 1st, and this is a special edition of Morning Wire. Joining us now to discuss her new book, D-Trans, True Stories of Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult, is Mary Margaret Olihan, who's now the Daily Wire's White House correspondent. Mary Margaret, thanks for coming on.
Thanks so much for having me. This is so fun to talk about my book on Morning Wire.
So look, your book, Detrans, comes out later this month. It tells the true stories of people who have detransitioned. This is a very controversial topic, though it's becoming something that people are paying increasing attention to. First, tell us something about the people you talk to for this book.
Yeah, these people I talked to were largely young people who transitioned in their teens or attempted to transition, right? Because we know that a man can't actually become a woman and a woman can't actually become a man. But that's the lie that they were sold by doctors and therapists and medical professionals. So these young people, including Chloe Cole, Prisha Mosley, and Abel Garcia, they went on hormones to try and become another gender. So for the girls, when they would take testosterone, they would notice all these bizarre physical and mental changes. For example, their hair changed, their skin got coarser, their voices got really deep. Some of the girls could no longer scream or cry, and they found that really disturbing. And then mentally, a lot of these girls were describing extreme rage and very increased sexual urges. They said that they sort of felt like they were going through a male puberty, but at the same time, kind of felt like they were going through female menopause in their teenage years.
So just really confusing, disturbing emotional and physical side effects that they weren't actually able to give informed consent for. These are kids we're talking about. And so when they consented supposedly to these procedures, they had no idea what they were getting into. So now a lot of them are suing.
Right. And I want to get to those lawsuits soon. But what age did these transitions begin?
Most of these transitions began when these young people were in their teens. So Chloe Cole, by the time she was 16, had undergone a double mastectomy and removed her breasts forever.
So sometimes surgeries, and I assume that all of them underwent hormone treatments as well, correct?
Yes, though some of them did it in different orders. For example, Luca Hein, a young woman who was trying to become a man, got a double mastectomy before she went on hormones. And these hormones, I should add, are a costly investment for young people that they're going to continue taking for the majority of their lives. I remember Matt Walsh did a really great investigation on how these young people are often gaining hormones and how they're accessing them and the kind of profits that organizations are making from giving hormones to young people, older people to try and change their bodies. And we still don't know all of the experimental effects that these hormones are going to have on them.
Right. More studies are coming out on that with some very troubling findings. Did any of these detransitioners discuss with you what really pushed them over the edge in terms of deciding to transition in the first place?
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