Masayuki Mochizuki

We have a subscription and then we have some social coins.

You can't withdraw them or anything for real value.

It's just purely in the game.

But you have users purchasing these coins as well.

How much money do you actually make, if you can tell me?

I don't think I'm in a position to reveal that.

We are still in a competitive space.

But it's a business that is at least aimed toward profitability or no?

Yes, it is.

I mean, we've raised money a couple of times and we keep expanding.

Our team is now 25 people.

Half of them or so are developers and the rest are dealing with customer support, YouTube, social media, all kinds of stuff, live tournaments.

We own the world championship.

So once a year in

Let's spend a couple minutes talking about this nice point that you raise about Backgammon as an illustration of economic thinking.

In what ways do you see those parallels?

Let's talk about trade-offs that you face in every decision.

Because Backgammon is a multi-dimensional game.

where all the variables, they are entangled.

You can't just say all else being equal.