Matt Abrahams

And then when the video was over, he became a facilitator of what just happened.

So what did you think?

What does this mean?

And he was much more comfortable facilitating interaction than actually being the center of attention.

So there are a lot of things we can do that accomplish the goal of communicating the information that's not about the spotlight being on me communicating it.

And I want to share one example of – or take the story about the kids doing show and tell.

I used to do that in my undergraduate classes that I taught.

But I had a wrinkle on it.

I'd have people bring in an object and they'd have to share it.

I had them use that what, so what, now what structure.

And then I had them tell about an object that they thought about bringing in but they didn't.

So then they had to say what that object was and why they chose not to bring it in.

And that was far more illuminating about the person.

And we talk about authenticity.

People just emoted in a way that they didn't when they had this thing that I've made sure to think about this and it's going to make me look good.

And I've architected my conversation about this one object.

But when they talked about the other object, their passion came out, their conversational nature came out.

I think it's that.

I think the consequences seem more real when you're in front of more people.

For me personally, the group size that's most anxiety provoking is between like 10 or 12.