Matt Bai

And OK, my answer to that has always been, well, I guess we're going to have to go back in history.

Let's build a time machine.

We're going to have to get rid of FDR and we're going to have to get rid of Lyndon Johnson and we're going to have to get rid of John Kennedy.

And I guess we can just figure out another way through the

the Great Depression and the Second World War and the Cold War because none of these guys deserve to be president.

We are not morality police.

And some things are relevant and some things aren't.

And my sympathy with Gary Hart is he was pleading in that moment not for complete innocence, not that he shouldn't have to be accountable.

He was essentially saying some things are relevant and some things are not.

And no one has ever...

made a case with any persuasiveness whatsoever that anything Gary Hart did in that moment was relevant to the governance of the United States.

I saw a grown man having a lot of fun at Disney, which I have too.

And look, I mean, this is a different subject.

I think the undercurrent of the allegations of those photos was different, right?

It was not just about a senator...

having fun while the Capitol was dysfunctional.

It was about rumors about Senator Graham that a bubble wand seemed to reinforce in people's minds.

Yeah, I mean, I think the bubble wand was very clearly like, look at this, there was an insinuation there that I think everybody understood.

You know, I guess you could argue that.

You could say, you know, Congress is dysfunctional.