Matt Beall

But it's almost like who, what, where, when, why, and how.

All those can be kind of... Those are all legitimate questions to ask about ourselves.

So...

But what was that then process like as you began to then, you know, kind of hit rock bottom and then begin to, you know, kind of develop into sitting here today?

Right, right.

And who today do you think is doing the best job of that?

Who sticks out for you today?

Have you read Eckhart Tolle?

Yeah.

Yeah.

He seems to me to be one of those guys that's been able to lift out of the 50,000 foot, you know, and look at it from that level and not get, I mean, you can see a little bit of an ego pop in, you know, every once in a while where it's like, okay, this is, it's a belief, you know, it becomes a belief, but it's very rare for him to count.

I mean, he's so conscious of what he says and how he says it that

But he's someone for me who, as I've begun this kind of new lifestyle, he made a huge impact on me four or five years ago and continues to resonate with how I view things.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, there's no, yeah, maybe, maybe no one exists.

I mean, how can you have, you can't have all the answers, but, um, so I guess in terms of, I want to ask, uh, one, one quick question and then kind of move on to more of, um, uh, things that are currently happening today and then kind of like your, your view on, on, um,

on some important topics that are happening today.

But before we get to that, the most impactful spiritual experience that you've ever had, undoubtedly, is the near-death experience, of course, but from an apparition standpoint.

seeing an actual apparition for, you know, a period of time that you think is undeniably conclusive and there's no way that you could have seen anything else.