Matt Bernstein

Yeah.

If you look at the itemized list of grants that they canceled, it's like, you know, $60,000 for the documentary.

$50,000 for, you know, a black history museum's fucking air conditioning system, stuff like that.

Crystal, you are, have a better understanding of the inner workings of like the government, frankly, than I do.

And of like budgets and stuff like that.

But these people are being paid more individually than these grants are worth.

To me, it's just so transparently not about saving money because these aren't significant amounts of money.

To be clear, though, it is a significant amount of money to the artists and researchers and scholars and culture makers who depend on that money.

But in the scheme of government spending...

What?

Totally.

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