Matt Bernstein

You're not going to go to the dermatologist every time one happens, especially not with these new insurance premiums.

Hey!

Okay, I'm just trying to cope.

I'm just trying to cope with my increased premiums that I just learned about.

All right.

But now you've been living with this rash for a long time, and it hasn't faded, just keeps getting bigger, more annoying, more harmful.

Ignoring it is no longer an option.

It's time to go to the dermatologist.

And by that, I do mean time for a podcast episode.

Hello, hello, and welcome back to A Bit Fruity.

You probably already have a million thoughts about Candace Owens as we arrive into this episode.

And if you're just learning about her for the first time, that's okay too, and I'm sorry.

But let's start with the facts.

Candace Owens uploads a podcast episode five days a week,

And each episode averages three to five million downloads between YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and the like, putting her at a higher daily reach than Fox News, CNN and MSNBC combined.

She has a level of fame that even watching from afar kind of terrifies me.

I'm resistant to the idea that anyone should have this much power, and especially someone who's demonstrably as untethered from reality as Candace Owens is.

Over the years, Candace brought tons of people into MAGA.

More recently, she's also brought tons of people away from MAGA, but not necessarily to a better place, put a pin in that.

She's gone from liberal to conservative to what I would describe now as like full-on digital cult leader.