Matt Bernstein
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But that does not mean she's taking them to where I think is a healthy place to be ideologically.
And I guess where I want to wrap this up is to all of these people who are either getting swept up in Candace content or
who have siblings who are getting swept up in Candace content, like many of the listeners of this podcast, I think the answer might be bleak, but I hope there's an optimistic version of it.
Like, what do we do?
What what at least can we say to those people to give them a better off ramp than like wherever crazy place Candace is trying to take them, you know, for her own benefit?
What?
Oh, because that's a big part of her whole thing.
Yeah.
An ICE agent fucking killed a woman today.
DoorDash.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No, but she'll find something new to sink her teeth into.
And you know where you will never find Candace Owens' podcast?
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You know I got to end on a joke, Taylor.
You know I do.
Taylor Lorenz, thank you so much for joining me on this journey today.
I am sorry for what you put yourself through watching this woman every single day.